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Lest we forget - one Jimmy Carter had the same tendency to pronounce the same word the same way.
But he was a good guy - after all he and Yasser Arafat won that there Nobel Prize.

exactly. the fact that the definition mentions this info is beyond most bush haters...well, id wager ALL bush haters.

the nobel committee is like the UN in my mind- meaningless, for the most part.

Man, do you have anything better to blog about?....jesus christ....

http://webapp.utexas.edu/blogs/bleiter/archives/002061.html

Interesting article.

its really too bad that that article is bunk, considering many MANY of bush's teachers, friends, and fellow students have always said the exact opposite. the facts arent even right- because there wasnt a waiting list to get into bushs natl guard spot...the PILOT spots were actually not filled, and they needed people so badly and couldnt find them that they were putting ads in the paper to find pilots. as for avoiding the draft, no proof exists to suggest thats why bush got into the natl guard...especially considering the fact that he signed up twice for a program to go OVER to VIETNAM and fly missions there- he was passed over both times for being just under the min flight hours.

just search the web for articles by the professor, and youll see hes simply another leftist who hates bush, and will tell any lie to try to make him look evil. the guy claims bush is against public education, tho reading in public ed. was one of bushs biggest things as gov of texas, and he brought the same thing into the white house, teaming with ted kennedy- that also contradicts history, since this guy wants us to believe bush wants to end all public education.

other comments that expose his statements as surely baseless and political:

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"What I couldn't stand -- and I told him -- he was all for the U.S. to continue with the Vietnam War. That means he was all for other people, Americans, to keep on fighting and dying."

Tsurumi said he remembers Bush because every teacher remembers their best and worst students, and Bush was in the latter group.

"Lazy. He didn't come to my class prepared," Tsurumi said. "He did very badly."

Tsurumi concedes that he disapproves of Bush's politics. He wrote a letter to the editor of his hometown newspaper, the Scarsdale Inquirer, that derided the president's claims to "compassionate conservatism."

"Somehow I found him totally devoid of compassion, social responsibility, and good study discipline," Tsurumi said. "What I remember most about him was all the kind of flippant statements that he made inside of classroom as well as outside."

Tsurumi says he is not working for any Democratic group for the Kerry campaign. "The only activity I do is to vote for him," Tsurumi said.

But Tsurumi has been speaking out against Bush by giving newspaper and radio interviews.
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funny how that works. the guy is voting for kerry and suddenly feels he has to go out everyday and attack bush...why? merely because his claims are true, that bush was an awful student (tho you can read numerous books and read the comments of fellow students who say the opposite- that bush was always a leader and was always helping others, one time fellow students remember he helped a black student who was being harassed by some other students) who got special favors? no, hes coming out NOW and saying the things he says now because hes a political hack- proven by the fact that his comments arent factually and historically accurate (the waiting list for pilots that never existed, the public education comments, etc)

[tho you can read numerous books and read the comments of fellow students who say the opposite]

-Well, as much as you call him a Bush hater and will go out of his way to lie to make Bush look bad, I can turn it around on you and say your sources are by just a bunch of Bush lovers who will lie to make him look good...

Unfortunately the door swings both ways. I never said the article was in any way shape or form true. I simply called it "interesting"..

problem is- it doesnt matter. the burder is on someone making negative statements that they have no proof of...not the many people who have expressed admiration for the man's compassion, intellect, caring nature, etc. plus, as mentioned, the facts and history prove this guys statements wrong. there was no waiting list for the pilot program for bush to get into (as the prof claims), and public education has been a big part of the bush admin in texas as gov and president, so that doesnt make sense.

i personally dont find bitter old teachers very interesting, but thats just me.

I also found a similar article on CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/bush.professor/

Where he claims Bush skipped a long line for his TANG. CNN would have pointed out such a flaw of there being "no line ups" for pilots, had there actually been one. CNN is right up there with FOX News when it comes to American Patriotism.

It also would explain why Bush went AWOL during his service during Viet Nam.

well, now you have a problem that being AWOL is a serious thing, and his military record never accuses him of ever being AWOL, and he was, as you know, honorably discharged.

whether cnn mentions it anywhere or anytime online or on the air, there were, indeed, no waiting lists to become a pilot in the planes bush flew in texas.

as for an argument of not living up to his duties, lt killian, in documents that ARENT faked said this of bush:

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In November 1970, the Commander of the Texas Air National Guard, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, called Mr. Bush, then 24, "a dynamic outstanding young officer" who stood out as "a top-notch fighter interceptor pilot." "Lt. Bush's skills far exceed his contemporaries," Colonel Killian wrote: "He is a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership. Lt. Bush is also a good follower with outstanding disciplinary traits and an impeccable military bearing."
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bush had to receive a minimum of 300 pts over six years, and during his 4 yrs with the guard, he received 954 pts.

you can read the article (or maybe articles) written by Col. John H. Wambough, Jr. of the us air force about bush's record as well- he flew with bush in tx, and has nothing but positive things to say about him.

again, the burden is on the guy who seems to want to attack the president 30+ yrs after the fact with assertions we can prove false.

one thing to point in in regards to coverage of the issues- very few reports mention that flying the jets bush flew was clearly a dangerous job, and he did it for 4 yrs...john kerry, who isnt usually questioned about his service, spent a mere 2 and a half months in combat in vietnam. 4 yrs...3 months. its telling how the president is attacked everyday in the media, yet mr kerry gets a free ride by most. and to top it all off, the president never violated the geneva convention as did mr kerry (so he claims).

[well, now you have a problem that being AWOL is a serious thing, and his military record never accuses him of ever being AWOL, and he was, as you know, honorably discharged.]

I am also aware that his father pulled a lot of strings during Jr's career in the TANG. The term AWOL (Away With Out Leave) is just what Bush did. Had any other polit done such a thing, serious reprecussions would have been brought down on them.

[In November 1970, the Commander of the Texas Air National Guard, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, called Mr. Bush, then 24, "a dynamic outstanding young officer" who stood out as "a top-notch fighter interceptor pilot." "Lt. Bush's skills far exceed his contemporaries," Colonel Killian wrote: "He is a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership. Lt. Bush is also a good follower with outstanding disciplinary traits and an impeccable military bearing."]

-Again, he could just be saying that because he likes Bush. The facts on Bush's career show a different side.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/roane040908.htm

=QUOTES FROM ARTICLE=

=The White House used an inappropriate–and less stringent–Air Force standard in determining that President Bush fulfilled his National Guard duty.

=Even using this lesser standard, the president did not attend enough drills to complete his obligation to the Guard during his final year of service. (note: This one in particular. How did he become such a great pilot if he didn't attend the drills necessairy to do so, which again, points to the fact that Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian is indeed not telling the whole truth on Bush's career in the TANG)

=During the final two years of his service obligation, Bush did not comply with Air Force regulations that impose a time limit on making up missed drills. Instead, he took credit for makeup drills he participated in outside that time frame. Five months of drills missed by the President in 1972 were never made up, contrary to assertions made by the White House

=Guard was looking for pilots willing to go through the lengthy training required to fly fighter jets. (note: I agree. You were right about no line ups. I couldnt find any supporting evidence either...but...)

=Although he scored poorly on the pilot aptitude test, Bush received a high mark for officer qualities. Guard officials decided to offer him a slot, (note: Had it been anyone else, I doubt they would have been given the chance)

lol. youre a bush hater- as always, so no facts will mean anything to you.

first off, awol is Absence without leave according to the us military...and bush was never absent without leave. we know from records and those who worked with him during this time that he worked on the campaign for his fathers friend during part of this time...and he got permission to go to harvard business school as well. he didnt take a medical exam, but that was because he was no longer going to be flying for the natl guard, and the only person who can tell us about the conversations about this excuse to miss it is dead. so, even if you wanted to claim he didnt fulfill his duty with this, you couldnt possibly prove it unless you can wake the dead, which i doubt.

as you say...
bushs commander in texas cant be trusted because he "likes him"? bushs official flight/air natl guard record that shows he received 3 times as many pts he needed to fulfill his duties mean nothing? thats just funny. the burden is now on a commander who praised bush and liked him? not quite.

so, killian is a liar, by your logic (and as you directly claim), because he says something and a reporter for a liberal newsmag says something different? odd logic, but if you say so!

staudt, who in the forged documents cbs used said that influence was given to get bush into the guard- yet staudt has come forward and said thats a lie, and that he never was influenced by ANYONE at ANYTIME. ben barnes claims he did favors to get bush in, tho his OWN daughter says hes lying and is a kerry supporter who is saying this to attack bush and help kerry...not to mention, as you admit- they were in need of pilots and couldnt find any, so if they couldnt find enough pilots for this program, how do you gather that someone had to pull strings to get him in? you dont pull strings to get someone into a program where theyre having a hard time finding people as it is...its like saying a business has 100 openings yet only 10 people show up and apply- then claiming that someones dad pulled strings to get him in. youd laugh at someone who said that, and you should laugh at someone who claims someone pulled strings to get bush into a pilot program that was desperate for pilots.

in the end, this is ridiculous as an issue. conveniently for bush-haters, many of the people involved with this issue are dead...many others have been proven liars (thanks to barnes daughter, killians son and wife, fellow guard members in texas and alabama, etc)...

[lol. youre a bush hater- as always, so no facts will mean anything to you]

-And you are a Bush lover, so any bad facts I find on him will mean nothing to you too.

again, thats twisted logic that makes absolutely no sense. i support bush and i like the kind of person he is. that doesnt mean i dont see facts. i see the facts- and theyre not on your side...a handful of men who hate bush have come up with some baseless allegations, and you think that passes as proof. it doesnt. if there was proof of wrongdoing, id be right on it myself, because i dont care for any politician who would have been AWOL (a VERY serious charge) or someone who lies, misleads, harms, etc.