I was watching Book TV on C-Span 2 for a while, and Micheal Moore, the proven liar, was on there, talking about his newest book. I hate programs like this- the guy just sits there and lets Moore go on and on about how republicans are racists, hate women, want to destroy the enviroment, only care about the rich, are dumb, etc...and nothing happens. The guy doesn't confront or anything. That's because this is the format- ask the fat idiot about his book, let him answer. It's not fair tho, even if the show isn't made to be confrontational.
How can anyone listen to this liar say the nonsense he does? He goes on and on, telling as many lies as he can get in for each question asked- mentioning that only Americans say God Bless America (or whatever country you might live in), but I highly doubt that that's actually true. Even if mostly only Americans invoke the name of God and his blessings- it makes sense, this is a Christian nation founded on Christian beliefs and principles...there's a song called God Bless America! Of course we say, "god bless america." Moore says this is wrong, because we're arrogant to think god would bless us and not others. Nonsense. It's called pride, love for your country. It's only natural.
He also takes quotes from President Bush, twists them, and then claims that Bush is happy about 9/11 (he says so in his book- yet when asked about it on this show, he says that he doesn't think Bush is happy about 9/11.) See? He even changes his story, and admits it. He claims that Bush is basically a bad guy in general, and that he shouldn't invoke the name of God, or use religion in any manner, because it's basically a fallacy. He said something about finding it silly that Bush asks God to bless the USA while he's bombing Iraq. Get over it, Moore, the American public agreed with the President- Hussein needed to be dealt with. In truth, the UN itself agreed with that stance, but refused to carry thru with their warnings (remember 1441?)
I just think this guy is ridiculous. He keeps the bad haircut and the hat to make himself look like the common man, all the while talking about his apartment in Manhattan and his house in the woods in Michigan...about his trips to the NYC pad while working on one of his fallacious movies, or retreating to Michigan to write his books that are packed full of lies. He's a joke, and the sad fact is- he's the only one that doesn't realize it. I mean, he has his fans, who refuse to think for themselves, but, I think that, deep down, they realize he's full of crap too.
Posted by Josh at November 28, 2003 12:04 AM | TrackBackIn response to Josh's post about Michael Moore: Let me get this straight. You believe that Michael Moore is a liar and you support George W. What are you, some kind of jerk-off? Pride and love for your country are not "natural" you foolish asshole!
George
Posted by: George Dervissis at January 10, 2004 05:58 PMumm okkkay? interesting. we all know moore is a liar. and i support bush- oh no, gasp! and im not quite sure theres a point to be made here...by george here, that is.
Posted by: josh at January 10, 2004 07:16 PMOK kids. Try and calm down. Let's all watch CBS news 60 minutes tonight (1/11/4) and there we will see what an estranged Bush Cabinet member has to say. It is my belief that Bush is not a bad guy at heart and he's doing what he thinks is right for us. That does not mean it is. If on 9/11 the majority of the hijackers had been from North Korea the headlines would have read "North Korea attack U.S." or if they were Chinese "China attacks U.S." but they were SAUDIS! so it read "terrorists attack U.S." We can't touch the Saudis because if they pulled there money out of our economy it would collapse. Also they are close friends to the Bushs. In fact Prince Bandara is known to George I & II as "Bandy Bush". I don't mind our leaders being friends with the rulers of other countries UNLESS THOSE LEADERS ARE DESPOTIC DICTATORS!!! The Saudis have one of the worst human rights records in the world and our government has propped up this tyrannical regime with weapons and money. The people of Saudi Arabia hate us! Why? Because they have watched their relatives murdered by U.S. Apache helicopters flown by the Saudi Militia. Of course we are starting a new terrorist breeding ground in Iraq now so we need not worry about the one in Saudi Arabia alone now!! I think that when our leader (who is not an evil person) has to lie to take us to war then we are a lot closer to running out of what we can all agree is not an infintite supply of oil. SO where do we go? We need to build love for America in foreign hearts NOT suicidal hatred! I say "five year plan" to get everyone on the planet potable water. Then chilren will associate the American flag with freedom and free water, NOT with the unexploded cluster bomb that took their leg!! Time is running out. We must act like a responsible super power and REALLY do what will make us safest at home and abroad and let's face it making war and enenmies does not make you safer. Vote Wesley Clark!!
Posted by: Dr. Blingtastic at January 11, 2004 10:45 AMya know, when you claim nonsense like bush lied to take us to war (he didnt- and its absurd to claim such a thing), you totally lose all credibility. and wesley clark? lol. i would have voted for the war resolution...wait, i wouldnt have. wait, i didnt have the chance, but if i did, i couldnt have voted for it. wait, i could have voted for it. oh yeah, i have SO much faith in clark to keep us safe!
im not sure how the war in iraq has made us less safe. thats a little silly if you ask me. the people of iraq are safer...its a good chance that that nation can be the start of a democratic trend in the region- which would make us ALL safer. and, i think, in time, bush will bring the war on terrorism to other nations as well- overthrowing these madmen across the globe.
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at January 11, 2004 12:25 PMHey, Steve here. I just wanted to adress your statement about you not knowing about attacking Iraq is making us less safer. I think it's a truth that Mike Moore speaks, that in large part we breed terrorists by not helping those less fortunate than the U.S (ones with millions of people starving and working for penny wages), and by doing that, and bombing countries, and dishonory them, we breed people to grow up hating our country, so they attack us, like on september 11, the people that came from a country so poor it's not even funny. It's time the U.S takes responsbility for it's actions. In Iraq, the U.S does such things as use "smart bombs" to get the bad guys, and end up killing thousands of innocent Iraqis, who is really the bad guy here? Michael made a good point when he said
The U.S hates terrorism, unless it's us that's doing the terrorising"..just think about that. I'm not saying I agree with everything Michael Moore says (or that it's even all the truth), but the guy has a lot of good points. Focus on those, not the things you call lies and stupid, open your mind, please.
Love and luck, Steve
Posted by: Stephen at January 22, 2004 09:15 PMyeah...the US does a lot of "terrorising." tons of it.
also- your statement about the US breeding terrorism by not helping others defies reason, since we give trillions to countries across the globe for all sorts of programs that feed, clothe, care for the sick, etc. we give billions to fight aids in africa and other parts of the world, even tho HIV is a very tiny problem in the US. we rebuilt countries after WWII- the enemies' countries! we are rebuilding iraq today. to say that we breed terrorism by bombing countries but not helping them goes against all the facts.
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at January 22, 2004 09:28 PMMichael Moore is a bitter, hypocritical, lying, needs-money-to-get-laid type of geek that blathers on to hear the sound of his own voice which in turn feeds his feeble, fragile ego.
He's the worst kind of liar - one that has so successfully lied to himself for so long that he no longer has the ability to recognize truth, thus believing his fallacious reality to be a universal truth. The danger lies in how adept he is at leading the other mindless conspiracy-obsessed sheeple into his reality...
Posted by: Tess at February 10, 2004 11:17 PMYou are really stupid.
Posted by: you at February 11, 2004 10:38 AMgo fuck yerself, motherfucker!
Posted by: dingus at May 27, 2004 10:20 AMHey I'm not much for making a fuss over the internet, thats just silly, But its nice to know we live in a country where discussions like this are alowwed, right? Everyone needs to see the big picture here, there are people out there who are hell bent on killing as many innocent americans as they possibly can, I know that in the past our goverment has undoubtedly rub these people the wrong way, but nothing can change that now. What happend on 9/11 was a national tragedy that touched us all in a very negative way. If you had lost a love one that day, do you think a diplomatic solution would satisfy you? No, you would want somebody's head for this. This war will send a clear message that groups and countrys cant just come over here on our soil and do these things to us and make us live in fear, NO WAY, Bush is not a perfect president, but he is trying to do somthing. I say stand together, support and defend our country because the enemy wil not be stopped by what you post on the internet, I can guarutee that
Posted by: orb at May 29, 2004 09:26 PMMicheal Moore talks more trash about america than the Fuckin French. It disgusts me that some people think he represents america. This motherfucker should be shot in his fat gut.
Posted by: Ryan at June 10, 2004 04:40 AMThere is no winning this argument- The minute he (Bush) declares the Saudis are despotic and evil and the oil stops flowing then he will be condemned for not doing enough just as soon as the fuel costs go through the roof. We pay well under half what most of the world pays and we bitch continually. There is no alternatives. It is easy to be a pundit and a naysayer but is is very tough to make hard decisions that have no clear answers. In large part and in most parts of the world you will be hated for what you represent without regard to your generosity or character. You can be killed simply because you are American and that is plain jealousy and spite. The French and other prove this repeatitly and I think we have a rather generous record with the French in particular and among many others. Many kids and families lost fathers in that place. It has little to do with anything else other that spite and jealousy and the quest for power and money. The French, Russians and Germans don't hold moral high ground- they are in search of money and power same as we are. Life is very cheap in most parts of the world and Moore doe everyone a dis-service by nix and naysaying without being put into a position of having to make the very decisions that he seems to profess to hate without having to offer any viable aternatives. BTW, what happened to the stories from yesterday of scrap metal dealers in Jordan and Turkey taking delivery of functional components of rocket motors and gas centrifuges that were shipped from Iraq as scrap metal- These are WMD components and had been segregated in the scrap dealers yards for later use or disposition. This kind of fact does not fit trite sound bites by Micheal Moore nor does it help with his quest for money and power therefore he ignores it.
Posted by: JW at June 11, 2004 06:38 PMI am a TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT, unlike you Nazi assholes !
God bless Michael Moore and his campaign of truth and what the TRUTH and being AMERICAN is REALLY all about !
Posted by: David Johnson at June 19, 2004 07:16 PMWhat is wrong with you people? Check out the video of Bush after he heard the second tower was hit and then compare it to how YOU reacted when the second tower got hit.
WAKE UP!!!!! THIS IS IT!!! WE ARE AMERICANS, DAMN IT!!! We have to unite. Screw Democrat and Republican crap. Isn't it obvious they all have to go. Somebody is fucking with us. We have to come together.
I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but I think our entire government should be fired along with their PR firms. These fuckheads have screwed us all. Doesn't anybody remember when they were a kid? Reality hasn't changed. We have to unite as a country. These assholes in our government would love us to stay in a 50/50 split. And for what... So they can feel the "high" of power. Screw them. We are being killed, and they are dividing us. Screw them. These guys in power (all of them) are going to get us killed. We need unity, attention to detail, and solid intelligence to continue the greatest experiment our species has ever commenced.
The United States is our species last hope, and these fuck heads are tearing it apart. Vote them all out. We must unite.
Posted by: st at June 19, 2004 07:30 PMI agree with you that we need to vote out both the democrats and the republicans.
Both political parties are selling all of us out.
Our national and local soveigrnty has been completely undermined by NAFTA and other corporate trade treaties that were created under Bush I, implemented by Clinton and Al Gore the corporate whore, and expanded exponentially by the current Bush the deserter and traitor who should be impeached for his lies that have cost the lives of over 800 brave young Americans.
It never ceases to amaze me of the morons ( like many on this list ) who in spite of the fact that our great country ( including our constitution ) is being destroyed from within by a corporate neo-nazi cabal, that they blame the messenger for sounding the alarm and support the very people who are fucking them and the rest of us to death.
Posted by: David Johnson at June 20, 2004 10:46 AMwow, hows the crack there, buddy? bush is a deserter and a traitor and a liar? funny, you mentioned gore and clinton, but didnt call them liars for THE SAME EXACT info/intel/stance on iraq. even the french agreed to res 1441 and said that hussein had weapons...as did the russians, the chinese, the canadians, etc. no one argued that he didnt HAVE wmd. so, in your strange little distorted view of the world, EVERY nation besides iraq is a lying nation, same goes for every world leader...yet, you only blame bush. funny how that works, and youre showing your true colors with such moronic comments.
then you go on about how corporations are evil. neo-nazi cabal ruining the nation! omg! down with the US economy, bring in socialism and communism! yeah! anarchy rules, mannnnn!
then again, youre the same guy who just said god bless moore, and that he speaks the truth, in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary. so, i guess i shouldnt be TOO surprised you come out with extremist nutball comments like these.
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at June 20, 2004 11:39 AMSo where are the WMD's ???
Why did the entire world including the UN, except the coalition of the coerced and bribed oppose the war, including the French, Russians, Canadians, etc. ??
And even the governments that supported Bush's illegal and immoral invasion were opposed by 70 to 90 % of their citizens ( Spain and Italy in particular ).
I never equated corporations with evil, but I did state that corporate trade treaties are destroying American jobs and soveigrnty.
You however seem to equate opposition to rule of our great nation by a corporate entity in Geneva Switzerland ( WTO ) as supporting socialism,communism, anarchy, etc., which reveals either your complete ignorance of these anti-democratic and un-American trade treaties, or your absolute support for the destruction of our nation.
AS far as accusing me of smoking crack and making " extremist nutball comments " , I understand.
Coming from someone who probably has never traveled outside the United States ( except for maybe a Club Med ) and probably depends on FOX " news ", The Rev. Moon's Washington Times and Rush Limbaugh for ALL of their information, it is understandable how weird the truth must sound.
Besides, have you read Michael Moore's Book, " DUDE WHERE IS MY COUNTRY " and its extensive bibliography and footnotes ?
I would like also to know where the " mountain of evidence " is that Moore's book is " full of lies ".
Posted by: David Johnson at June 20, 2004 09:37 PM
search google. moore is a walking lie, but i can see youre opposed to truth, since you claim that the US went it alone, and everyone else who agreed hussein hadnt complied had WMD (the same ones he used against the kurds and the iranians!) were either coerced or bribed.
you make the absurd claim that fox news isnt news...tells us volumes about you and your clear bias.
were ruled by the wto, who is working to steal all of our jobs and ruin our nation...michael moore is a blessing from god, the war was "illegal" and "immoral" tho you dont mention the acts of hussein and how the iraqis no longer fear his rape squads or torture rooms...no longer living in fear that they might be hanged, have their eyes gouged out, their hands cut off, their babies starved to death in the next room while the mother watches, etc.
you clearly know little about law, since you seem to think that ousting a brutal dictator who has killed millions of his own people and the people of other nations is illegal...especially being that said thug broke all the stipulations and treaties that ended the gulf war, AND he broke 17 UN resolutions. how you get illegal from that, ive no idea. from your logic, i guess the ruin of hitler was illegal as well? he was a thug who killed millions and snubbed his nose at the world.
immoral? millions of iraqis no longer live under a mass murdering dictator. they can go out and live without the fear of being put in prison for going against hussein...theyll be able to vote for the first time in their history, choosing their own leader and their own future. theyll be able to go to real schools...get real jobs, not under sanctions caused by hussein, and there will be no one to steal their money to build lavish palaces like saddam did. they will take part in world affairs- and be taken seriously. theyll be able to make and build lasting rships with other nations. thanks to the ousting of hussein- one of the most brutal dictators the world has seen. yet, the removal of this murderer was "immoral?"
glad youre not running things. since you have such a perverse idea of what is legal and what is moral- saddam murdering people= legal/moral? ousting of said dictator and freeing millions=immoral/illegal? have fun in fantasy land, buddy!
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at June 20, 2004 10:33 PMYou seem to be the one living in fantasyland !
WMD's are NOT serine and mustard gas. Nuclear weapons and biological weapons WITH intercontinental delivery systems are WMD.
Hussein DID NOT have these capabilities and Bush has been proven a liar on this claim, by former members of his own cabinet,as well as the U.S. inteligence community. By the CIA no less !
Why didn't Bush attack Israel, India, Pakistan, or North Korea, all of whom DO HAVE WMD ?
Since when did the Bushes or Reagan or even Bill Clinton care about people being oppresed by dictators ?
When has that EVER been a foreign policy concern ?
Especially when one considers the track record over the years of the support for dictators like Suharto or Indonesia, Pinochet of Chile, Rios Monte of Guatemala,the Dulavier's of Haiti,The Taliban in Afganistan, Saddam Hussein before 1990.
this also includes the current support for the brutal dictatorships in Uzbekistan,Burma,and last but not least.... COMMUNIST CHINA !
Oh, and lets not forget, the overthrow by the CIA of the ONLY democratic government Iraq ever had back in 1959 ! In fact that is when the BAATH party was put in power AND a few years later a young army lieutenant named Saddam Hussein was put on the CIA payroll.
Have you ever thought about the similarities between Hussein in Iraq and Noriega in Panama ?
I do agree with you that Saddam Hussein was a muderous dictator. I knew several Iraqi people years ago who told me stories about Hussein's barbary and how it effected their family.
But don't forget, that Reagan and GHW Bush gave Saddam the gas he used to murder the Iranians and the Kurds, and they said NOTHING and in fact gave Saddam MORE WEAPONS after the gasings !
The ONLY reason that Bush I acted against Saddam was because Saddam became to over confident, invaded kuwait, and frightened the Saudi Royal Family ( another brutal dictatorship ). The saudi Royal family OWNS the Bush family, so Bush I had no choice. With junior Bush, the main reason he ILLEGALLY ( not in compliance with a UN mandate nor did the U.S. congress declare war, which under the U.S. constitution is a must. ) invaded Iraq ( and in the process killed thousands of iraqi civilians ) was to seizure the oil and to privatize the Iraqi economy by providing no bid contracts to their cronnies at Haliburton ( Cheney's company in which he still holds major stock holdings ).
Also, Bush and company have some nutcase fantasy about creating a new world order under their total control similar to the past oppresive British empire ( who my family suffered under ) and / or the Roman empire.
However, the plan is not going very well because it seems the Iraqi's ( like any proud people anywhere )though glad to be rid of Saddam, do not want another brutal dictatorship imposed upon them by a foreign army that is trying to seize their assets and Who are TORTURING them, JUST LIKE SADDAM. Have you ever heard of Abu Ghraib ?
And don't try and tell me that a half dozen weekend warriors from West Virginia did this on their own. They were instructed and ORDERED to do this by Army Intelligence, the CIA, and up the chain of command to Rumsfeld !
I really feel sorry for all the brave young American men and women in the armed forces who were LIED to and have DIED, and many PERMANANTLY psychologically and physically damaged for life,
all because of the fanatisicm and greed of the Bush administration and their supporters.
How truely un-American !
They are the one's who hate America, its constitution, and it's people who they consider nothing more than sacrificial lambs for their demented illusions of grandeuer !
You seem to be the one living in fantasyland !
WMD's are NOT serine and mustard gas. Nuclear weapons and biological weapons WITH intercontinental delivery systems are WMD.
Hussein DID NOT have these capabilities and Bush has been proven a liar on this claim, by former members of his own cabinet,as well as the U.S. inteligence community. By the CIA no less !
Why didn't Bush attack Israel, India, Pakistan, or North Korea, all of whom DO HAVE WMD ?
Since when did the Bushes or Reagan or even Bill Clinton care about people being oppresed by dictators ?
When has that EVER been a foreign policy concern ?
Especially when one considers the track record over the years of the support for dictators like Suharto or Indonesia, Pinochet of Chile, Rios Monte of Guatemala,the Dulavier's of Haiti,The Taliban in Afganistan, Saddam Hussein before 1990.
this also includes the current support for the brutal dictatorships in Uzbekistan,Burma,and last but not least.... COMMUNIST CHINA !
Oh, and lets not forget, the overthrow by the CIA of the ONLY democratic government Iraq ever had back in 1959 ! In fact that is when the BAATH party was put in power AND a few years later a young army lieutenant named Saddam Hussein was put on the CIA payroll.
Have you ever thought about the similarities between Hussein in Iraq and Noriega in Panama ?
I do agree with you that Saddam Hussein was a muderous dictator. I knew several Iraqi people years ago who told me stories about Hussein's barbary and how it effected their family.
But don't forget, that Reagan and GHW Bush gave Saddam the gas he used to murder the Iranians and the Kurds, and they said NOTHING and in fact gave Saddam MORE WEAPONS after the gasings !
The ONLY reason that Bush I acted against Saddam was because Saddam became to over confident, invaded kuwait, and frightened the Saudi Royal Family ( another brutal dictatorship ). The saudi Royal family OWNS the Bush family, so Bush I had no choice. With junior Bush, the main reason he ILLEGALLY ( not in compliance with a UN mandate nor did the U.S. congress declare war, which under the U.S. constitution is a must. ) invaded Iraq ( and in the process killed thousands of iraqi civilians ) was to seizure the oil and to privatize the Iraqi economy by providing no bid contracts to their cronnies at Haliburton ( Cheney's company in which he still holds major stock holdings ).
Also, Bush and company have some nutcase fantasy about creating a new world order under their total control similar to the past oppresive British empire ( who my family suffered under ) and / or the Roman empire.
However, the plan is not going very well because it seems the Iraqi's ( like any proud people anywhere )though glad to be rid of Saddam, do not want another brutal dictatorship imposed upon them by a foreign army that is trying to seize their assets and Who are TORTURING them, JUST LIKE SADDAM. Have you ever heard of Abu Ghraib ?
And don't try and tell me that a half dozen weekend warriors from West Virginia did this on their own. They were instructed and ORDERED to do this by Army Intelligence, the CIA, and up the chain of command to Rumsfeld !
I really feel sorry for all the brave young American men and women in the armed forces who were LIED to and have DIED, and many PERMANANTLY psychologically and physically damaged for life,
all because of the fanatisicm and greed of the Bush administration and their supporters.
How truely un-American !
They are the one's who hate America, its constitution, and it's people who they consider nothing more than sacrificial lambs for their demented illusions of grandeuer !
pal. your insane. bush is owned by the saudi royal family, and bush wants to start a new world order like the roman empire and everyone on earth agreed that what hussein had and used on two nations is, indeed, wmd. you have an odd definition of what is and what isnt wmd. why not just admit you hate bush and THATS why you have this odd definition of what wmd is?
who lied? the intel from the cia, the fbi, other sources outside of the us, the UK, etc...they all said hussein had the weapons and DID NOT FULLY COMPLY AS THE UN RESOLUTION CALLED FOR. even blix said there was nothing new in the 12, 000 page document hussein tried to pass off as his regime complying. so, blix lied too right? and al baredi lied too, since he said they hadnt complied with showing the destruction of all of their nuclear program. france, germany, russia, canada, etc. they all leid too, right? sicne they agreed hussein wasnt fully complying and didnt accoutn for all weapons that were banned by the UN. all these nations are part of a world wide conspiracy right?
the war was for oil? explain US gas prices then, genius. war for oil is about the most ignorant claim out there.
bush broke US law? funny...congress approved the war resolution. so, congress broke the law too right? wait, no, it was just bush and cheney, because youre a blind bush hater. its ok to admit it.
if an action isnt supported by the UN its in violation of international law? funny...we have never signed any document that claims any such thing, nor has any other nation as far as im aware. the UN doesnt run the world...so i guess the actions in the balkans were illegal, right? since that was a nato thing and not approved by the UN. is that the case?
reagan and bush gave hussein the gas to kill the kurds? wow. now youre rewriting history with your paranoid fantasies. how precious.
now, you claim that the iraqis are under a new brutal dictator with the US and that theyre being tortured just like hussein tortured them? funny. what brutal dictator is in place from the US? and how do you equate the murder of millions by hussein, the rape of tens of thousands, cutting off hands, fingers, etc. to the acts of a handful of US soldiers on PRISONERS, not innocent civilians kidnapped ferom their homes by husseins thugs? thats funny. theres no comparison...well, not outside of your brain, there isnt!
you say that bush should attack israel because they have wmd. thats just funny...and i can take a guess and say youre anti-israel, which wouldnt be shocking with your paranoid rantings about new world orders and lies and international law breaking and ties to evil evil haliburton (which owns the US govt of course, well, haliburton and the saudis- the unholy alliance! muahahahaha!). we didnt attack israel maybe because israel isnt run by a brutal thug who murders his own people and invades other countries and wont allow voting and has caused numerous wars, etc. maybe that could be it, ya think?
rumsfeld ordered some soldiers in iraq to abuse some prisoners. you say that with zero evidence, and nothing even to suggest that is even remotely plausible. then you go on to bash soldiers, claiming theyre not smart enough to do such things on their own.
bush and bush supporters hate america and the constitution as well?
whew. let me know when the aliens come down to take over the earth and force all of us to undergo anal probes to further their cause of world domination...then, theyll expose the truth that bush is actually the antichrist and the world will end in nuclear holocaust.
oh, btw...i hate to inform you that the cia never said bush was a liar. that would be odd since the intel he gets comes FROM THE CIA- so, they would be calling themselves liars (good try tho)...and former cabinet members? o'neill who claims he lied to the american people because when you work for the president of the US thats just what you do? a man who never came out with any of his info until he was on his book tour and trying to sell said book? an admitted liar who is trying to push his book...thats proof that bush is a liar? not to mention, im a little confused as to how oneill knew that hussein had no WMD (tho the entire international community said he did) when he was simply the treasury sec. and didnt travel to iraq and meet with hussein about wmd or anything remotely close to that?
hilarious!
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at June 21, 2004 11:28 PMyou are absolutely right about ONE thing.
I absolutely HATE BUSH and all of his FASCIST policies !
Bush is a war criminal and should be IMPEACHED and
sent to prison !
Bush is a DISGRACE to ALL that is good about America.
you are the one who refuses to see the facts and instead of wasting anymore of my time communicating with a borderline retard I will end this by stating that it doesn't look good for your boy Bush, and for the sake of this country and the WORLD,I pray to the almighty that the EVIL of the neo-nazi Bush administration is finally ended and that someday ignorant people like you will see the errors of your misguided beliefs. But maybe that is expecting too much !
Posted by: david Johnson at June 22, 2004 06:34 PMReagan did arm Iraq (Saddam) with the chemical weapons used against Iran - and we turned a blind eye to what occurred because we wanted Iran to lose that particular war. One of many cnfirmed articles:
http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=9710&TagID=2
Funny little exchange between Josh and David. Thanks guys I enjoyed reading that. I'm what I would consider an independant, so I'd like to think that my opinion is more objective than either of the two aforementioned gentlemen. In the final analysis it's blantantly obvious that David is an etreme idealogue, without much more than his dogma to form his opinions. Obviously facts aren't something he holds much stock in. Most of what you say David is left wing rhetoric, at least Josh attemts to cite facts in his arguements, which automatically makes his assertions more credible. For you to brand Bush as a "neo-nazi" is quite laughable. Can you back this statement up with any fact whatsoever David? How can you compare Bush to Nazis? Has he systematically tried to murder a race of people? What country has the US tried to annex? (Before you answer you should consider the June 30 date). Are there any countries in the world that the US has taken over? I could name a few they have rebuilt and/or defended/saved.
As I see it, extreme idealogues from both sides of the fence are very dangerous. You David are one on the left that's for sure. The big difference as I see it, between the left and the right, is at least you can have a rational conversation with a righty, the lefties are lost in their own dillusional minds. It's a mental disease.
Posted by: Chris at June 23, 2004 05:20 PMyeah. i was going to comment again, but i decided that it was pointless to even discuss any issue with someone who claims conspiracies about a new world order, that the war was illegal and immoral (letting hussein kill innocents is moral, maybe?), and that bush is a neo-nazi. the mad rants of a loon, clearly.
id consider myself a conservative independent. i support bush and other republicans, because they usually support the ideas i support. when voting for mayor, i voted democrat and governor, when that comes up- ive no idea...havent been up on the facts, the platforms, etc. not just yet. but, my point is- ive found that the left hates george bush the president and the man. its pathetic, because its blind hatred based on no evidence of wrongdoing or any moral problems the man himself might have.
many on the left, to me, actually seem to hate america itself with their extreme rhetoric on bush/republicans/policy, etc. when the left attacks the right, its okay- its ok to call repubs racist, religious fanatics, bigots, etc. and thats fine coming from prominent figures on the left. the right does ANYTHING, and the left attacks and claims that whatever comments were made prove their assertion that the right is bigoted, racist, hates the poor, etc.
its pointless to even debate issues, because WAY too many on the left are in fact dillusional when it comes to the right and when it comes to the country itself.
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at June 23, 2004 07:42 PMTwo questions would destroy at least half the agenda of the political left: "Compared to what?" and "At what cost?"
A third question would wipe out most of the rest of the left's agenda and demolish the vision behind that agenda: "What hard evidence do you have?"
-Thomas Sowell; http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3701; May 19, 2004
Posted by: ThePRAWN at June 25, 2004 12:22 PM
David, who other than Halliburton would have the capabilities to take on the task in Iraq? Why do liberals keep ranting that it is Dick Cheney's Halliburton? I believe Halliburton is a public held company owned by thousands of tax paying americans. I believe it is also employs thousands of tax paying americans. Also, VP Cheney sold his holdings in Halliburton during the 2000 campaign.
Posted by: michael at June 27, 2004 07:07 AMVOTE FOR BUSH AND CHENEY '04
and burn micheal moore and all people who follow him
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Clinton did get impeached for being a liar and dont you think the Dems would get Bush if he was a liar. Moore is the liar. For the dumba** who thinks that serine and mustard gas are not WMD WRONG.
Posted by: randy at June 27, 2004 08:45 PM
Yeah Randy, your a fucking genius, Clinton got impeached? Gee how come the rest of the world didn't know except you? You're just about as smart as Jason Galambos. VOTE FOR THE ONES WHO KNEW ABOUT 9/11 BEFORE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN'04
Posted by: pdj at June 28, 2004 07:48 PM
I think pdj is a homosexual.
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Josh, you need to grow up and except the fact that some people don't like Bush. And Randy, you need to spend some time researching these things we have called treaties. Jason, you are the coolest person. I mean, going to a page and spamming sure makes your point proven and doesn't take any repsect for your view we once had and throw it out the window.
To all of you, IT'S CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
I just turned 17, I joined the army. Its time for me to stop killing people in video games, and to start doing it in real life. And I decided that once my 4 year contract is up, i'm going to buy a remington 700 model high powered rifle, make myself a silencer ( its really easy ), then stake michael moore out and shoot that fat fuck in the eye. all you democratic motherfuckers are pussies,hippies, and all around little bitches. if you really care about your country, you'll enlist and start to help kill some of those god damned sand niggers. michael moore is no better than osama lying and criticizing America.----==--
P.S. david johnson is a faggot with moore and likes to suck his 2 inch dick, oh that reminds me, GAY PEOPLE PISS ME OFF, there going to burn in hell
Posted by: Steven Raynor at July 29, 2004 04:51 PMJust want to comment on the we breed terrorist comment(we breed terrorists by not helping those less fortunate than the U.S (ones with millions of people starving and working for penny wages), and by doing that, and bombing countries, and dishonory them, we breed people to grow up hating our country, so they attack us, like on september 11, the people that came from a country so poor it's not even funny.) PLEASE we dont breed terrorist.How stupid does that sound.Its people like SADDAN who brain wash his own people to hate us,blame us for thier poverty.To keep their eye off of Saddan while he sleep and have sex wit his billion.that fool was not poor .Neither is bin ladden he came from a rich back ground and family.He has billions of dollor and getting more support by saddan to more terrorist damage.They hate us for our beliefs in our God who has blessed this country.Jesus said it this way (REMEMBER THEY HATED ME FIRST BEFORE THEY HATED YOU).That what is all about. THAT ALL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.LOL
Okay, first of all...Clinton WAS impeached, but acquitted in the Senate. The Constitution establishes a clear distinction between the two.
As far as Michael Moore goes, I find it hard to believe that anyone who goes to Europe and rants about how stupid Americans are is himself a patriotic American.
i think all liberals should die and got to hell and get fucked by satan especially that fat son of a bitch michael moore and all u other peace loving hippies, why dont u all go to iraq and stand there and we'll drop a nuke on your liberal fuckers ass, so i can enjoy my life and not have to put up with ur bullshit, liberals reminds me of communism, why dont u all go somewhere else if u hate this counrty so much ,why do u go to etheopia and live there for a good year im sure, ull be dying to come back to america after that 1, better yet just stay there and die and rot in hell u whiney fucks, ohhh by the way bush/cheney 04!!!
Posted by: Troy at August 24, 2004 12:01 AMYeah, Troy. Let's kill all the liberals. Thgat's not called genocide or anything, and I'm sure we could talk ourselves into believing that we're better than those we call terrorists before we go to sleep everynight.
Too many people talk about how *insert dictator's name here* is another Hitler. Even more people than that fail to realize how much they allow themselves to resemble what they hate.
Posted by: EJ at October 1, 2004 11:12 AMej fuck you man, and your dumbass comments why dont you join with your other estrogen pumped friends and go suck a dick. you fuckin queer you kinda people make me sick.
Posted by: troy at October 30, 2004 12:03 AM