Howard Dean is lying again.
Dean makes an appearance in the new HBO FICTIONAL series K Street. In his scene, he gets debating tips from CNN host Paul Begala and Clinton lover James Carville. Carville makes up a line in which he tells Dean to use if he's asked about minority votes. He tells him to say that if you're closeness to the african american community was determined by the number of them in your state, Trent Lott would be Martin Luther King. I can't find the actual quote itself anywhere online. I'll keep looking.
Anyhow, the problem is- in the last democratic debate that aired on Fox News, Dean used the same line from the HBO series...word for word. He taped the scene in question on Monday and the debate was on Tuesday. His aides claimed he came up with it, but HBO said that it's clear that Carville came up with it. Dean also uses another line from the same series at the debate. Dean, who tries to bill himself as a straight talker is clearly anything but. This is great for Bush, hoping Dean will stay the front runner, because if this happens there is absolutely no way that Bush will be defeated. The American people will in no way embrace Dean...especially in the midwest where a large chunk of the electoral vote lies.
I just wanted to post this to make sure no one takes Howard Dean seriously. Anyone who steals lines from an HBO series he appears in is not worth anyone's vote. Dean claims that the only reason people are making a big deal out of this (along with his idiotic comments on Israel and his backtracking on various issues) is because they're upset that he seems to be leading the democrats in most polls, and they're trying to stop his momentum. Funny stuff from a ridiculous man.
Posted by Josh at September 15, 2003 05:22 PM | TrackBackDean is truly a MORON !!
Posted by: Bill at November 3, 2003 01:53 PMplease send me a list of lies told by dean and other canidates
Posted by: don at December 11, 2003 12:04 PMIf this is the only dirt you can dig up on Dean, then the right wing has a serious problem on its hands come November 2004.
Explain to me why it's OK for Bush and his hand-picked Pentagon officials to lie to the American people to justify a war that kills thousands, but that Dean is "rediculous" because his aides claim that he made up a line used on a TV show. You would have to be an idiot to assume that such an insignificant misstep will dissuade the American people from voting for somebody like Dean, even in the Midwest.
Posted by: republicrat at December 12, 2003 04:34 PMdean has lied in a number of occasions. i see that youre clearly a left wing zealot, since you claim the nonsense about bush lying to the american people...intelligence isnt perfect- as i have mentioned here before...so, until you become 100% perfect in everything you say and do, then dont call it a lie. (it wasnt)
a war that kills thousands? oh yea...because hussein didnt fill the mass graves with bodies, did he? thats a terrible tactic- using certain phrases- trying your best to paint the picture that the white house lied to the public, so they could go out and kill thousands of innocent people.
now- until you can come up with a military plan that is 100% effective, dont talk about "killing thousands." if thats your stance...then you must think it was okay for hussein to kill thousands? if the US is wrong in taking out the regime, accidentally killing some civilians, then iraq must be okay in MURDERING millions, right?
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at December 12, 2003 06:32 PMHoward Deans entire campaign is full of lies.
He claims to have provided health care for all children in Vermont. Not true, none of my children are covered. No one I know receives coverage under any plan Howard Dean set up.
His idea of balancing a budget is to just pile on the taxes. ACT 60 is a fine example.
Ask Howard Dean why IBM built their new semiconductor facility in New York instead of Vermont. The reason is that Dr. Dean was too short sighted to realize that giving IBM a break on their tax burden would be returned many times over in payroll taxes and sales tax receipts.
Approximately 2000 Vermonters that worked for IBM have lost their jobs as a result.
I and many others like me have seen nothing but increased taxes under Dr. Dean. While company after company either left the state entirely or down sized.
dean is a complete joke of a candidate. then again, all of the candidates this yr on the democratic side are complete and utter jokes. they all have changed their story so many times, its funny. dean is just popular because there seems to be some rising lunatic left fringe in the country for some reason. i personally dont think any democrat who gets the nomination has a chance in hell against bush. the rhetoric coming from these candidates this year is just way overboard. dean governed vermont!! i mean, how many people are in the state? not to offend anyone from vermont, but hes got no experience, tho he acts like he single handedly made the state the most prosperous in the nation. none of which is even true, let alone him being the one who did it.
ive posted a number of lies that dean has told...so, more lies that we discover shouldnt be too shocking, i guess. thats pretty sad- the state of politics in the US, but its the truth.
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at December 14, 2003 06:27 PMAs a Republican, I have to say I'm tickled to death with the "ascendency" of Howard Dean to his rightful place as the democratic standbearer in 2004. As soon as Dean receives the Democratic Nomination, he will all but seal the fate of Democratic party for the next 10 years. His propensity for lying, is already well-known.
Howard Dean is going to obliterate himself and around his neck will hang the "hopes and aspirations" of many Democrat Senate and Representaive hopefuls, who will go down to defeat to their Republican challengers. The Senate will see both chambers "filibuster" proofed for the next 10 years....Then we will finally see some real reform: we will break the democratic logjam on Federal Judges; nominate several conservative Supreme Court Justices; "encourage" the spread of democracy in Iran, Syria and maybe in North Korea... I get so excited about the future...So please join me in supporting Howard Dean in 2004!!!!
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator at December 25, 2003 07:32 PMi love the republican ad running where all the noms are attacking bush...and dean is all screaming throughout the entire commercial- and at the end, hes screaming to the crowd "THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!" like a madman. im actually somewhat creeped out by his demeanor most of the time.
has he unsealed his records yet? the ones he promised to unseal once bush's were unsealed (then he found out that bush's ARE unsealed and available for viewing)...but then he changed his mind and said he cant unseal them to protect the privacy of others?
i wonder what other conspiracy theories hes interested in now as well...maybe 9/11 was planned by aliens from mars and bush was visited by said aliens and shown videos of the attacks from the future (aliens on mars have time travel capabilities), and bush laughed at the destruction, and kicked back a few wine coolers with the aliens...dean might find that theory the "most interesting" now that ive put it out there for him.
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at December 25, 2003 08:13 PMDean is a panderer and a con man.
And let's face it...
He claims hedoesn't know if Bin Laden is guilty
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/26/elec04.prez.dean.bin.laden/
And let us call a marxist a marxist shall we. While at yale he may have listed his parents' home address on New York's glitzy Park Avenue, but Dean's transcript is a road map of late-'60s anti-Establishment politics, with a healthy serving of courses on revolutionary movements: "History of Soviet Union," "Marxism Existentialism," "Soviet Foreign Policy," "Reason and Revolution," "International Communism," "Marxist Theory," and "Chinese Politics." And, of course, there's a less-than-radical class on "President and Bureaucracy."
The guy worships a form of government that is responsible for the murdering of millions of people who dared oppose it.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/whispwebarch.htm
Liberty1st last and always.
Posted by: Liberty1st at December 30, 2003 02:11 PMliberty. nice comments. i never saw this stuff before now.
doesnt shock me- the man is a total radical and he doesnt even try to hide it. how the left in this country have him running so high in polls is just scary. the far left seems to hate the way things are as it is- capitalism, democracy, traditional values, free market economy...you name it. many of their core values are inherently anti-american, anti-god, anti-government (at least the govt we have now), and so on.
dean is now attacking john kerry on some issues dealing with farm bills. he attacked kerry, claiming that he supported legislation that he never supported (the website that shows congressional voting records proves this), and he made another mistake in attacking kerry on yet another farm issue. he also claims hes the only candidate from a farm state...tho, as the piece i read (ill try to find it) pointed out- every state in the US is a farm state in some manner...and in vermont where dean is from, there are only about 7, 000 farms, and kerry's state has something like 20, 000+ farms. i forget what the numbers were, but kerry's state has way more farms, and like i said anyhow, every state is a farm state!
dean just cant tell the truth no matter what he does...plus, he hates america so much that he claims bush might have known about 9/11 and the point you mentioned about how he cant say if bin laden is guilty or not! hes outrageous- but scarier than dean himself are the many lefties that support him!
Posted by: Josh Bozeman at January 1, 2004 01:21 PMI can't believe the left wingers actually think that Dean is some common, ordinary blue collar joe. He's just like Bush: raised rich and closed-minded. Damn neo-cons and unrealistic liberals.
They either want to piss the world off or turn America into the fiscal mess and social unrest that is the EU.
The good news is now that Jesse Ventura's show got booted off the air, he'll probably jump in the Presidential race.
Now there's a common sense candidate I want. Time to piss off the fucking establishment and the two parties that have enslaved this nation.
Democrats and Republicans ARE the reason that about 50% of this nation does not vote.
Posted by: Dave at January 2, 2004 09:58 PMOhh, and to be fair, Bush has lied just as much. Whatever happened to conservatism? Total fiscal irresponsibility, period. Spending is up 26% and that doesn't include the 87 Billion we spent on the Iraq mess. The patriot act is destroying civil liberties and while Bush probably won't use it for bad purposes, somebody else down the road could. It's a very slippery sloap for liberty and we need to abolish this awful piece of legislation as soon as possible. Bush put even our community school standards in the hands of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT via the No Child Left Behind Act and this is rediculous. Especially, since local schools aren't being funded by the feds. Then he urged Congress to vote him power to unilateraly decide whether we should go to war which should be THEIR decision ultimately. Let's face it.. conservatism is dead. The Republicans are at most social conservatives and fiscal liberals. They should be ashamed. Bush deserves congrats on getting Saddam but now reports are coming in saying that the Kurds found him before the US. If it turns out we've been lied to, it's fucking Clinton all over again. Our founding fathers and those who died in wars over one hundred years ago deserve better than this because we're losing our moniker as "sweet land of liberty".
While I'm more like Jesse Ventura and socially moderate to liberal, I voted for Bush in 2000 on account of his "conservatism" and his trust of the people, not the government, to make their own decisions. This never happened, in fact, it got worse.
The Republicans better be careful because they're ticking off A LOT of Americans by abandoning small government ideology for a semi-imperialism ideology. Heck, and I never thought I'd say this but, the Libertarians look almost better these days than the Republicans.
Posted by: Dave at January 2, 2004 10:16 PMDean is a fool, and by the time the election rolls around, he will have zero credibilty. He lies every time he opens his mouth.
Posted by: Chris at January 6, 2004 11:45 AMWhat an amazing coincidence that the people who declare themselves Republicans tend to think Dean is a liar and a joke, and the people who declare themselves Democrats think the same of Bush.
You both have the exact same opinions. They are just about different people. You should step out of yourselves and analyze your own positions.
Its obvious to me, with emphasis on to me, that both men have lied or misspoke. As have we all.
I've been trying to track original source on the Dean story, but I need to jet out the door soon and Google is being recalcitrant, so I'll just say that if that information is accurate, its obvious he lied or misspoke.
Bush has also been demonstrably shown in several occasions to lie or misspeake. I again don't have original source info on this, but web searches should turn up his comments about two army divisions not being ready for duty during his acceptance address, which turned out to be untrue, and his statement that "by far the vast majority of my tax cut goes to the poorest something something" - my apologies again for not having the exact quote on hand.
I should have a second lie or misspeaking for Dean here as well, I'm sure he's done it at least one other time in his life.
Its fairly obvious to me that a "Clintonization" (tm) of Dean is beginning to occur, now that he has emerged as the front runner. Clintonization involves taking small and questionable things about the candidate, beating the drum on them endlessly on talk radio, blowing them out of proportion, and finally pushing them into the mass media, by which time they have reached the credibility level of any other story.
Dean, as Gore, and, of course, Clinton before him, will be painted in the coming months as a slick liar, a big-money democrat who is dishonest and power-hungry. Any small thing he says which borders on the untruth will be hounded endlessly by the machines of talk radio (and mass media, which has now decidedly taken a swing to the right as well).
The other side, of course, has no such machine, unless the Liberal radio network gets off the ground. Therefore, Bush should be able to get away with the tiny untruths that we all speak all day. He will be afforded the courtesy that we afford almost all human beings - the ability to make mistakes. Bush makes mistakes all the time, but is rarely called on them. Any mistake of speech that Dean makes [b]will[/b] be attacked. Watch. He is being made into Clinton. Why not? It worked in 2000 and 2002.
Posted by: Jason Hart at January 7, 2004 01:18 PM===At one debate in 1999, Gore introduced Iowa farmer Chris Peterson. Floods had destroyed 400 acres of Peterson's crops in 1993. At the time, Gore was a senator, and he supported a bill that offered flood relief.
"Why did you vote against the disaster relief for Chris Peterson, when he and thousands of other farmers here in Iowa needed it after those '93 floods?" Gore asked Bradley, a former N.J. senator, who was in office at the time the bill was being debated.
"You know, Al, I think that the premise of your question is wrong," Bradley responded. "This is not about the past. This is about the future."
Now Peterson, a Dean supporter, is accusing Kerry, also a senator at the time the bill was debated, of the very same flood relief sin.
"Bill Bradley opposed important flood relief that would have made a world of difference to farmers like me. Now, four years later, we again have a Democrat U.S. senator from an industrial state running for president in Iowa who voted against the very same flood relief legislation that would have benefited rural Iowans," Peterson said in a written statement.
But Kerry's camp is fighting back, and accusing Dean of smear tactics. Kerry, in fact, did vote for the flood relief that Bradley opposed. The proof is on the Web site of recorded votes that Congress operates. "Once again, Howard Dean has issued a statement that will likely result in a clarifying statement to correct the record. This time, Dean wrongly accused John Kerry of supporting farm legislation he didn't support and voting against flood relief for farmers that Kerry did support," said Stephanie Cutter, Kerry campaign spokesperson.===
-Foxnews-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107128,00.html
===In the meantime, Gephardt is doing his own critique of Dean, slamming him for making the unbelievable claim in a Wisconsin newspaper that "Nobody else comes from a farm state." The statement clearly set aside the fact that every state in the union is to one degree or another a farm state, and Gephardt's home state of Missouri has 110,000 farms compared to 6,600 in Dean's home of Vermont.
That number ranks seventh among the nine states that are represented by the candidates seeking the presidential nomination. But even if Dean isn't the only one running from a farm state, he is the only one to raise $15 million in the fourth quarter of 2003. Kerry raised nearly $9 million, Gephardt just over $1 million and retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark has brought in about $10 million.===
*same article*
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(Farm quote) It's amazing that Dean could say something so...well...stupid!
(Flood relief) Doesnt Dean have at least one fact-checker/researcher working for his campaign?
Howard Dean is such a pathetic liar and a weasel.
His latest outrage?
Why this hard line left wing extremist and hate merchant called Coward Dean ,when he was Governor of the People's Republic of Vermont actually went to give evidence (in written formno less) to try and protect his Chief of Police, who it turns out was a vicious wife beater.
Ole Coward Dean tried to cover up for this nasty wife beater.
Read the details from ABCNEWS here:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/dean_domestic_abuse_040114-1.html
So much for Dean the weasel's attacks on President Bush for not doing enough to protect women, and so much for Dean's very loud protests about being strongly for women's rights.
Not only is Dean NOT for women's rights, he showed by his behaviour that he was strongly for cuddling and protecting people who beat up on women!
Shame on you Howard Dean!